Route History

29.10.83
PD151+
4T
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EXPRESS SERVICE:
THAMESMEAD Bentham Road North - - Plumstead - Woolwich - - NON STOP via 177 to Elephant - Blackfriars - Fleet Street - Aldwych - Whitehall - Westminster - COUNTY HALL( Mon-Fri am peak. -> & pm <pm peak jny)
New with the flow express service


27.04.85
PD151+
4T
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EXPRESS SERVICE: THAMESMEAD Bentham Road North - - Plumstead - Woolwich - - NON STOP via 177 to Elephant - Blackfriars - Fleet Street - Aldwych - Whitehall - Westminster - COUNTY HALL or VICTORIA Mon-Fri am peak. -> & pm <pm peak jny)
Certain Mon-Fri express journeys re-routed at Westminster via Route 11 to Victoria.

 

 

TE113 seen on an express journey at Westminster

busmap.co.uk

 


27.04.85
PD151+
4T
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EXPRESS SERVICE: THAMESMEAD Bentham Road North - - Plumstead - Woolwich - - NON STOP via 177 to Elephant - Blackfriars - Fleet Street - Aldwych - Whitehall - Westminster - VICTORIA Mon-Fri am peak. -> & pm <pm peak jny)
County Hall journeys withdrawn

20.04.88
PD151+
4T
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EXPRESS SERVICE: THAMESMEAD Bentham Road North - - Plumstead - Woolwich - - NON STOP via 177 to Elephant - Blackfriars - Fleet Street - Aldwych - Whitehall - Westminster - VICTORIA Mon-Fri am peak. -> & pm <pm peak jny
Anew service was introduced marketed Armada Express running against the flow from Greenwich to Regent Street utilising buses from 177 Express

 

02.01.93
Service withdrawn

Comment by Plumstead driver Tony Wimble

 My name is Tony Wimble, a good friend of Steve Barker, I have known him since, about 1986, when LT closed Bexleyheath Garage, and I was transfered to Plumstead Garage.

After a while I got on the 177 Express rota. When I first went on the route it was then between Thamesmead & Victoria, the first duty in the AM after reaching Victoria, run back out of service to the Elephant & Castle, to work a 177 service back to PD garage, if you had T1127 you had to work it in service, as it was the only one that had route and destination blinds (although a bit strange compared to the normal Titan or Olympians blinds) T1129 &T1130 both had a metal plate in the front blind boxes displaying Selkent Travel, so them two could not be used.

If T1127 was allocated to operate that first journey a lot of drivers would swap it over for one of the other ones, of the L260 -L262-L263 they could be used on normal 177 journeys (except L263) as if it was used (rarely) the engineers would tell drivers to run them journeys out of service, L263 being their show bus. When the 400 (bounty bus) started, yes LT maximized the mileage on the return and the outward journeys, although the first AM journey still did the run light to Elephant & Castle then normal 177 to Plumstead Garage, but instead of the 2nd half of that duty doing two PD to Elephant & Castle rounder's on the 177, it changed to two round trips on the 400 route, taking a bus out of the garage after your meal break.

A couple of times doing that duty myself I was asked if I would like to use one of PD's open top DM's (only on good weather days) so I did use one, I think it was DM948, but I am not 100% sure of the fleet number, there was only the one that had blinds fitted for the 400, and that duty was the only one that did a whole half on the 400 route leaving and returning to PD garage, without a 177 Express on it. The 2nd and 3rd AM duty's on 177Express both worked return journeys as 400 route after there breaks worked 400 route, then returned as 177 Express, and one late turn duty worked 400 route up town, returned as 177 Express, then 2nd half as normal route 177. 

If my memory serves me correctly the 400 Bounty bus route was, Regent Street, right Criterion Place,(if blocked by parked vehicles via Piccadilly Circus) to Haymarket,Cockspur Street,  Strand, Aldwych, Arundal Street, Temple Place, Embankment, Upper Thames Street, Tower Hill, Tower Bridge, Jamaica Road, Lower Road, Evelyn Street, Creek Road, to Cutty Sark, then I am sure that the busses returning to PD garage went on to the Thames Barrier (if no one was on the bus after Greenwich you did not have to go to the barrier) but on town bound journeys you had to go down to the barrier, it was not very well used to the Thames Barrier.

I also did the 700 from Greenwich to Leysdown (Isle of Sheppy) on Sundays & Bank Holidays during the summer months when Selkent took over the route from either M&D or Arriva (not sure who operated the route before Selkent.  I also did the route that Selkent 750 which ran between Woolwich (via Thamesmead ) to Lakeside Shopping Centre (via the Dartford Crossing).

Although I can still remember most of the routes and where they went from starting at New Cross in January 1975, to Bexleyheath in April 1980 and Plumstead in August 1986 and finally Dartford in January 2016 SO most of my bus driving was done in south east London, except the New Cross routes that went to North London and the South West London.

 

Operating Garage

PD plumstead
Changeovers at garage

 

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Date of edit   Friday, 03.12.21