Date |
Gar |
Mon-Fri |
Sat |
Sun |
03.10.34 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
8STL |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
8ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
4ST |
4ST |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - Hendon - The Burroughs - West Hendon - Church Lane - Kingsbury - Wembley Park Stn - Wembley - Alperton - Hanger Lane Stn - EALING BROADWAY STN (Mon-Fri / Sun) - South Ealing - Kew Bridge - KEW GREEN (Mon-Fri peaks / Sats)
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21.11.34 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
8STL |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
8ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
4ST |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sun ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Sunday Harrow Weald (HD) withdrawn
30.01.35 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
8STL |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
10ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
-- |
-- |
|
AC |
(Thu) 3STL/8 |
4STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sun ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Saturday Harrow Weald (HD) withdrawn
Thur / Sat AC allocation introduced
17.04.35 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
10ST |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
8ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
-- |
4ST |
|
AC |
(Thu) 3STL/8 |
4STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Sunday extended from Ealing to Kew Green
Sunday HD reinstated
02.10.35 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
10ST |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
8ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
-- |
-- |
|
AC |
(Thu) 3STL/8 |
4STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Suns) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Sunday withdrawn between Ealing and Kew Green
08.04.36 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST+ |
10ST |
2/13 & 1/52 |
1/13 & 2/121 |
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V |
10ST |
10ST |
10ST |
|
HD |
4ST |
-- |
4ST |
|
AC |
(Thu) 3STL/8 |
4STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Sunday extended from Ealing to Kew Green
Sunday HD reinstated
27.05.36 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST |
10ST |
2/13 & 1/52 |
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HW |
10STL |
10STL |
10STL |
|
HD |
4ST |
-- |
4ST |
|
AC |
1STL/6 |
5STL |
-- |
|
Thurs | + 4STL/8 |
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Mon/Wed/Fri | 3STL |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Mon-Fri AC allocation introduced
Daily V allocation transferred to Hanwell (HW)
07.10.36 |
AE |
10ST+ |
10ST |
8ST |
2/13 & 1/52 |
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HW |
10STL |
10STL |
8STL |
|
HD |
2ST |
-- |
-- |
|
AC |
2STL+ |
5STL+ |
-- |
|
Tue | 1STL/6 |
3/18 AND 3/18B |
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Thur | 4STL / 8 |
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Mon/Wed/Fri | 3ST |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sat am) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats pm)
Saturday am and Sunday withdrawn between Ealing and Kew Green
24.03.37 |
AE |
10ST |
10ST |
-- |
HW |
12STL |
12STL |
-- |
|
AC |
4STL+ |
5STL+ |
-- |
|
1STL/6 |
3/18 AND 3/18B |
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Mon/Wed/Fri | 2 / 8 |
GOLDERS GREEN - Ealing - West Ealing - Hanwell - Southall - Western Road - SOUTHALL Brent Road ( Mon-Sat )
Mon-Sat diverted at
Ealing via Hanwell to SOUTHALL Brent Road replacing withdrawn section of Route 17
Sunday service renumbered 83A
Mon-Fri HD allocation withdrawn
05.04.39 |
AE |
10STD+ |
11STD |
-- |
2 /121 |
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HW |
12STL+ |
11STL |
-- |
|
1 / 105 |
||||
AC |
4STL+ |
5STL+ |
-- |
|
1STL/6 |
6STL / 6 |
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except Tue/Wed | 5 / 8 |
GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan
Diverted in Southall to White Swan instead of Brent Road
07.06.39 |
AE |
2STD |
-- |
-- |
Thurs only |
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HW |
2STL |
-- |
-- |
|
Thurs only |
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Mon/Wed/Thu/Sat only |
AC |
STL ex other |
5STL |
-- |
ON |
26STL |
22STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan
Mon-Sat Alperton (ON) allocation introduced with opening of new garage
AE and HW reduced to Thurs journeys only
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Taken from 1939 map drawn by Mike Harris |
08.11.39 |
ON |
16STL |
16STL |
7STL |
AE |
-- |
|
10STD |
03.01.40 |
ON |
23STL |
23STL |
7STL |
AE |
-- |
|
10STD |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs / Suns ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Mon-Sat
reinstated between Ealing and Southall except evenings
20.03.40 |
ON |
23STL |
23STL |
-- |
+ 1STL/79 |
+1STL/79 |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Sunday withdrawn - 83A reintroduced
15.05.40 |
ON |
11STL |
15STL |
-- |
HW |
11STL |
7STL |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Fri except evgs / Sats)
Saturday evenings extended from Ealing to Southall
Part of Mon-Sat ON allocation transferred to Hanwell (HW)
13.11.40 |
ON |
11STL |
15STL |
7STL |
HW |
11STL |
7STL |
10STL |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri evgs / Suns) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Fri except evgs / Sats )
Sunday service reintroduced ( 83A seasonally withdrawn )
02.04.41 |
ON |
11STL |
15STL |
-- |
HW |
11STL |
7STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat )
Sunday service withdrawn - 83A reintroduced
Mon-Fri evening service restored between Ealing and Southall
29.10.41 |
ON |
11STL |
15STL |
-- |
HW |
11STL |
7STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Evening service withdrawn between Ealing and Southall
13.05.42 |
ON |
18STL |
20STL |
-- |
HW |
9STL |
7STL |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - North Hyde Road - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Mon-Sat peaks extended from Southall to Hayes
27.10.43 |
ON |
14G/7STL |
16G/9STL |
-- |
HW |
8G+ |
6G |
-- |
|
1STL/55 |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
G type introduced
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25.10.44 |
ON |
24G |
23G+ |
-- |
2G/18 |
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HW |
14G |
4G |
-- |
|
AE |
-- |
12STD |
-- |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Saturday only Hendon (AE) allocation introduced
13.02.46 |
ON |
26G |
29G |
-- |
HW |
13G+ |
10G |
-- |
|
1STL/55 1LT/105 1STL/120 |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Saturday only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn
13.03.46 |
ON |
29G |
29G+ |
-- |
2G/18 | ||||
HW |
10G+ |
11G |
-- |
|
1STL/55 1LT/105 1STL/120 |
GOLDERS GREEN - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat )
Extended to Hayes at all times
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Taken from August 1949 Red Book |
26.10.49 |
ON |
28G |
36G |
9RTW |
HW |
12B |
5B |
8RTW |
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Suns ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat )
Mon-Sat extended from Southall to Hayes at all times
Sunday reintroduced between Golders Green and Ealing ( 83A withdrawn ) using RTW type
Southall (HW) Bristol type introduced
03.05.50 |
ON |
28G |
36G |
-- |
HW |
12B+ |
5B |
-- |
|
1RTL/55 |
GOLDERS
GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced
by 83A.
11.10.50 |
HW |
12B |
5B |
10RTW |
ON |
28G |
23G/11RTW |
13RTL |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months.
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02.05.51 |
HW |
12B |
5B |
-- |
ON |
28STL |
18STL/18RTL |
-- |
GOLDERS
GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced
by 83A.
G type at ON replaced by STL/RTL.
17.10.51 |
HW |
5B/7STL |
5B |
-- |
ON |
28STL |
16STL/16RT |
21RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months.
Sunday HW allocation withdrawn. Sunday only RT allocation introduced.
14.05.52 |
HW |
12STL |
5STL |
-- |
ON |
28STL |
21STL/11RT |
-- |
GOLDERS
GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced
by 83A.
22.10.52 |
HW |
12RT |
5RT |
-- |
ON |
28RT |
32RT |
16RT |
|
AE |
-- |
-- |
5RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months. AE allocation
introduced.
06.05.53 |
HW |
12RT |
5RT |
-- |
ON |
28RT |
32RT |
-- |
GOLDERS
GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced
by 83A. AE withdrawn.
07.10.53 |
HW |
12RT |
5RT |
-- |
ON |
28RT |
32RT |
16RT |
|
AE |
-- |
-- |
5RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months. AE reinstated.
27.01.54 |
HW |
13RT |
6RT |
-- |
ON |
29RT |
32RT |
16RT |
|
AE |
-- |
-- |
5RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - Hayes - Church Road - Lansbury Drive - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Mon-Sat extended from Hayes to Hayes North. Journeys
to Hayes North started from Hayes Station.
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19.05.54 |
HW |
13RT |
6RT |
-- |
ON |
29RT |
32RT |
22RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Sunday
only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn.
06.10.54 |
HW |
13RT |
6RT |
-- |
ON |
29RT |
32RT |
16RT |
|
AE |
-- |
-- |
5RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Hendon
(AE) allocation re-introduced.
04.05.55 |
HW |
13RT |
5RT |
-- |
ON |
27RT |
31RT |
20RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Sunday
only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn.
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Taken from May 1955 Red Book |
30.04.58 |
HW |
12RT+ |
5RT |
-- |
1RT/105 | ||||
ON |
24RT |
27RT |
16RT |
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26.11.58 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
16RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and Hayes North - replaced mainly
by extended 105
HW
allocation withdrawn.
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11.05.60 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
22RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - South Ealing - Great West Road - Osterley -
Lampton - Hounslow West - Cranford - Harlington Corner - LONDON AIRPORT
CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing
via 65 and 91.
12.10.60 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
15RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter
months
10.05.61 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
21RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing
via 65 and 91.
11.10.61 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
15RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter
months
09.05.62 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
19RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing
via 65 and 91.
10.10.62 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
15RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter
months
08.05.63 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
19RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing
via 65 and 91.
09.10.63 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
12RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter
months
01.07.64 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
17RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing
via 65 and 91.
18.11.64 |
ON |
27RT |
25RT |
12RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport for good
03.10.65 |
ON |
30RT |
32RT |
14RT |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - Hendon - West Hendon - Wembley - Alperton - Hangar Lane - Ealing -
Hanwell Broadway - Boston Manor - BRENTFORD Half Acre
Extended from Ealing to Brentford replacing part
255.
01.10.66 |
ON |
28RT |
29RT |
14RM |
GOLDERS GREEN - BRENTFORD
Sunday
RM introduced.
31.12.66 |
ON |
27RM |
27RM |
14RM |
GOLDERS GREEN - BRENTFORD
RM's
introduced daily.
30.11.68 |
ON |
25RM |
25RM |
10RM |
GOLDERS
GREEN STN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Mon-Sat withdrawn between Hanwell and Brentford - replaced
by new E1
Sunday withdrawn between Ealing Broadway and Brentford - replaced by new E1.
25.10.69 |
ON |
24RM |
25RM |
6RM |
GOLDERS
GREEN - ALPERTON (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday withdrawn between Alperton and Ealing - replaced
by OPO route 83A Wembley & Ealing.
15.05.71 |
ON |
24RM |
23RM |
10MB |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday converted to One Person Operation and extended
from Alperton to Ealing Broadway replacing Route 83A.
21.04.73 |
ON |
25RM |
23RM |
7DMS 3SMS |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday
part double deck operation introduced.
27.10.73 |
ON1+ |
25RM |
23RM |
10DMS |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday
single deck operation withdrawn.
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RT4329 subs for an RM December 1974, seen at Hanger Lane |
DMS714 Ealing Broadway Station |
23.01.77 |
ON1+ |
25RM |
23RM |
10DMS |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Rerouted southbound via Tudor Gardens instead of Old Church Lane at Blackbird Cross
28.10.78 |
ON1+ |
22RM |
21RM |
11DMS |
GOLDERS
GREEN STATION - Hendon Central Stn - West Hendon - Kingsbury - Wembley -
Alperton - Hangar Lane - EALING BROADWAY STN (Suns) - HANWELL
BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Re-routed at Hendon via Hendon Central Stn replacing
diverted Route 183
31.03.79 |
ON1+ |
22RM |
21RM |
11DMS |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Sun am) Hanwell - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Extended
from HL Garage to King Edward Hospital
24.01.80 |
ON1+ |
22RM |
21RM |
11M |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Sunday
only DMS type replaced by Metrobus.
04.09.82 |
ON1+ |
19Mc |
17Mc |
10M |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Mon-Sat
RM replaced by M crew vehicles.
23.04.83 |
ON1+ |
22M |
20M |
10M |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Converted
to One Person Operation.
26.03.88 |
ON1+ |
22M |
20M |
10M |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat late evenings/Sun am) Hanwell - EALING
HOSPITAL (Mon-Sat except late evenings/Sun pm)
No late eve Route Mon-Sat - Ealing Broadway & Ealing
Hospital
13.09.97 |
ON1+ |
19TN |
18TN |
11TN |
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New Contract |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Start of new contract and extended from Ealing Broadway to Ealing Hospital
at all times
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13.09.02 |
ON1+ |
19TN |
18TN |
11TN |
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Contract renewal |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract renewal - night service added but numbered N83
17.04.04 |
ON |
19TN |
18TN |
11TN |
Night Route | ON |
4VTL |
4VTL |
4VTL |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Night
Route introduced - previously had been N83
12.09.09 |
ON |
28VN |
24VN |
20VN |
Night Route | ON |
4VN |
4VN |
4VN |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract
renewed with First
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VNZ32335 Wembley Hill Road
|
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22.06.13 |
ON |
28VN |
24VN |
20VN |
Night Route | ON |
4VN |
4VN |
4VN |
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NEW OPERATOR |
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GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract novated to Metroline West
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VW1756 Golders Green
|
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13.09.14 |
ON801+ |
28VW |
27VW |
22VW |
Night Route | ON |
4VW |
4VW |
4VW |
GOLDERS
GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract extended for two years
10.09.16 |
ON801+ |
19VW |
18VW |
15VW |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - ALPERTON STATION
Withdrawn between Alperton and Ealing Hospital, this section replaced by New Route 483
Night service renumbered N83 as the day and night service differed
Contract renewal
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VW1755 has just dropped at the last stop with the blind set already for the return journey |
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11.09.21 |
PV201+ |
20VW+ |
18VW+ |
16VW+ |
4VW/N83 | 4VW/N83 | 4VW/N83 |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - ALPERTON STATION
Contract extended for two years
Alperton (ON) closure, allocation moved to Perivale (PV)
17.09.22 |
ON401+ |
22VW |
22VW |
19VW |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - ALPERTON STATION
Vehicles will be parked overight at new outstationof PV at Athlone Road Alperton
26.08.23 |
ON401+ |
21VW |
21VW |
17VW |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - ALPERTON Sainsbury's
Extended from Alperton Station to Sainsbury's
09.09.23 |
ON401+ |
21VW |
21VW |
17VW |
GOLDERS GREEN STN - ALPERTON Sainsbury's
Contract renewal with WDE electric type when delivered
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PV Perivale
Changeover point at garage with buses running dead from Alperton
AE
Hendon
Changeover point outside garage
ON
Alperton
Changeover point outside garage
HW
Southall
Changeover point outside garage
V Turnham Green
Changeover point Kew Bridge
HD Harrow Weald
Changeover point not known
Thank you indeed for your delighful, absolutely fascinating website. It's so full of memories and incredible, fascinating detail, and the bus drawings are superb. More trolleybuses, especially the north-western routes, would be nice if you have the time but it's quite amazing anyway.
I haven't lived in the part of London that was Middlesex for 53 years now but I've kept my interest in the buses of my boyhood all my life. My parents told me that from a very young age, whenever we managed to get top deck front seats on our fairly frequent journeys to Victoria, I would "drive" the bus using my raincoat buttons as the steering wheel! Later, downstairs nearside front became the favourite seat as I could watch the driver changing gears.
I was myself a driver on Derby City Transport throughout in the 80s, ending up as the Works Convenor at the time of deregulation, which resulted in a short-lived (bought out by an Arriva predeccessor) employee buyout. DCT was principally a Daimler operator and for a time around then we had a handful of secondhand and knackered DMSs, which were, frankly, awful things and that's as near as I got to achieving my childhood dream of driving RTLs.
I'd like to pass on some information about the two routes I knew best, the 52 and 83: the 52 took me to senior school and to Victoria on the way to visit my aunt in Brixton and the 83 took me to Wembley and to Golders Green for a 210 to The Arsenal. it's been so interesting after all these years to find out about allocations and times. Oh, how I would have loved this in my bus spotting days! How on earth you've managed to compile the destination blind section is beyond me but I can add a couple of footnotes that I hope will help.
I can't remember exactly but I suspect it was about 1963/4, when I was 13 or 14, that I first saw a 52 displaying a "KINGSBURY GREEN" blind but I was delighted as Kingsbury wasn't listed at all on the intermediate blind at that time. At first it was only the 52s and after dropping off passengers the buses ran empty across the traffic lights and up Buck Lane to the top of the hill. There they turned left into Highfield Road and waited for time at the bottom of the road. A left turn brought them immediately back on route and the first stop, not a fare stage, was after another left turn at the small parade of shops on Kingsbury Road where they were back in service. I can say definitely that up until the end of 1967 the destination display was "KINGSBURY GREEN".
The 83 was later in using the shortwork but, whereas I remember the 52s turned round there only occasionally, the 83s seemed to use it much more frequently (There was nothing otherwise between Wembley Park and West Hendon). This happened after the route became RM operated so according to the website this was 1966; I cannot ever remember seeing an RT on a Kingsbury Green shortwork. I'm surprised that later they used the "Roe Green" suffix as the route didn't actually serve Roe Green while the shortwork only traversed the road so named for a hundred yards without stopping there.
The 83s used the same roads as the 52 to turn round but, surprisingly, they waited for time at the bottom of Buck Lane, which caused congestion when there were several of them, as happened at times. Later, presumably after complaints from drivers or other motorists, they also started waiting for time at the bottom of Highfield Road; I once saw four RMs parked there. On their returne to service I don't know if they picked up at the first stop on Kingsbury Road, which was the southbound Roe Green stop normally used by 52 and 183, as the 83s weren't back on route until the Church Lane fare stage at Kingsbury Green; more to the point, no-one would have waited for an 83 there as it was off route. Again, at least until the end of 1967. the blind showed plain "KINGSBURY GREEN" so I believe this destination deserves a place on your blind displays for both the 52 and the 83 if you are able to alter them.
The other routes that did traverse or pass Roe Green were the infrequent (by the standards of the 52 and 83) 79 and 183 but I don't think either ever used Kingsbury Green as a shortwork.
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© Ian Armstrong 2024
Date of edit
Tuesday, 11.02.25