Route History

 

Date
Gar
Mon-Fri
Sat
Sun
03.10.34
AE
10ST+
10ST+
8STL
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
8ST
 
HD
4ST
4ST
4ST

GOLDERS GREEN STN - Hendon - The Burroughs - West Hendon -  Church Lane - Kingsbury - Wembley Park Stn - Wembley - Alperton - Hanger Lane Stn - EALING BROADWAY STN (Mon-Fri / Sun) - South Ealing - Kew Bridge - KEW GREEN (Mon-Fri peaks / Sats)

21.11.34
AE
10ST+
10ST+
8STL
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
8ST
 
HD
4ST
4ST
--

GOLDERS GREEN  -  EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sun )  -  KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Sunday Harrow Weald (HD) withdrawn

30.01.35
AE
10ST+
10ST+
8STL
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
10ST
 
HD
4ST
--
--
 
AC
(Thu) 3STL/8
4STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN  -  EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sun )  -  KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Saturday Harrow Weald (HD) withdrawn
Thur / Sat AC allocation introduced

17.04.35
AE
10ST+
10ST+
10ST
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
8ST
 
HD
4ST
--
4ST
 
AC
(Thu) 3STL/8
4STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Sunday extended from Ealing to Kew Green
Sunday HD reinstated

02.10.35
AE
10ST+
10ST+
10ST
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
8ST
 
HD
4ST
--
--
 
AC
(Thu) 3STL/8
4STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Suns) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats )
Sunday withdrawn between Ealing and Kew Green

08.04.36
AE
10ST+
10ST+
10ST
   
2/13 & 1/52
1/13 & 2/121
  
 
V
10ST
10ST
10ST
 
HD
4ST
--
4ST
 
AC
(Thu) 3STL/8
4STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Sunday extended from Ealing to Kew Green
Sunday HD reinstated

27.05.36
AE
10ST+
10ST
10ST
   
2/13 & 1/52
    
 
HW
10STL
10STL
10STL
 
HD
4ST
--
4ST
 
AC
1STL/6
5STL
--
Thurs  
+ 4STL/8
    
Mon/Wed/Fri  
3STL
    

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri ) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats / Suns )
Mon-Fri AC allocation introduced
Daily V allocation transferred to Hanwell (HW)

07.10.36
AE
10ST+
10ST
8ST
   
2/13 & 1/52
    
 
HW
10STL
10STL
8STL
 
HD
2ST
--
--
 
AC
2STL+
5STL+
--
Tue  
1STL/6
3/18 AND 3/18B
  
Thur  
4STL / 8
    
Mon/Wed/Fri  
3ST
    

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri / Sat am) - KEW GREEN ( Mon-Fri peaks / Sats pm)
Saturday am and Sunday withdrawn between Ealing and Kew Green

24.03.37
AE
10ST
10ST
--
 
HW
12STL
12STL
--
 
AC
4STL+
5STL+
--
   
1STL/6
3/18 AND 3/18B
  
Mon/Wed/Fri  
2 / 8
    

GOLDERS GREEN - Ealing - West Ealing - Hanwell - Southall - Western Road - SOUTHALL Brent Road ( Mon-Sat )
Mon-Sat diverted at Ealing via Hanwell to SOUTHALL Brent Road replacing withdrawn section of Route 17
Sunday service renumbered 83A
Mon-Fri HD allocation withdrawn

05.04.39
AE
10STD+
11STD
--
   
2 /121
    
 
HW
12STL+
11STL
--
   
1 / 105
    
 
AC
4STL+
5STL+
--
   
1STL/6
6STL / 6
  
except Tue/Wed  
5 / 8
    

GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan
Diverted in Southall to White Swan instead of Brent Road

07.06.39
AE
2STD
--
--
   
Thurs only
    
 
HW
2STL
--
--
   
Thurs only
    
Mon/Wed/Thu/Sat only
AC
STL  ex other
5STL
--
 
ON
26STL
22STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan
Mon-Sat Alperton (ON) allocation introduced with opening of new garage
AE and HW reduced to Thurs journeys only

Taken from 1939 map drawn by Mike Harris
busmap.co.uk

08.11.39
ON
16STL
16STL
7STL
 
AE
--

--
10STD
GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Daily )
Withdrawn between Ealing and Southall
Sunday introduced ( 83A withdrawn )
03.01.40
ON
23STL
23STL
7STL
 
AE
--

--
10STD

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs / Suns ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Mon-Sat reinstated between Ealing and Southall except evenings

20.03.40
ON
23STL
23STL
--
   
+ 1STL/79
+1STL/79
  

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Sunday withdrawn - 83A  reintroduced

15.05.40
ON
11STL
15STL
--
 
HW
11STL
7STL
  

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Fri except evgs / Sats)
Saturday evenings extended from Ealing to Southall
Part of Mon-Sat ON allocation transferred to Hanwell (HW)

13.11.40
ON
11STL
15STL
7STL
 
HW
11STL
7STL
10STL

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Fri evgs / Suns) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Fri except evgs / Sats )
Sunday service reintroduced ( 83A seasonally withdrawn )

02.04.41
ON
11STL
15STL
--
 
HW
11STL
7STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat )
Sunday service withdrawn - 83A    reintroduced
Mon-Fri evening service restored between Ealing and Southall

29.10.41
ON
11STL
15STL
--
 
HW
11STL
7STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs )
Evening service withdrawn between Ealing and Southall

13.05.42
ON
18STL
20STL
--
 
HW
9STL
7STL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - North Hyde Road - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Mon-Sat peaks extended from Southall to Hayes

27.10.43
ON
14G/7STL
16G/9STL
--
 
HW
8G+
6G
--
   
1STL/55
    

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
G type introduced

July 1944 first and last times
25.10.44
ON
24G
23G+
--
     
2G/18
  
 
HW
14G
4G
--
 
AE
--
12STD
--

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Saturday only Hendon (AE) allocation introduced

13.02.46
ON
26G
29G
--
 
HW
13G+
10G
--
    1STL/55
1LT/105
1STL/120
   

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Mon-Sat evgs ) - SOUTHALL White Swan ( Mon-Sat except evgs ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat peak hours )
Saturday only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn


13.03.46
ON
29G
29G+
--
      2G/18  
 
HW
10G+
11G
--
    1STL/55
1LT/105
1STL/120
   

GOLDERS GREEN -  HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat )
Extended to Hayes at all times

Taken from August 1949 Red Book

26.10.49
ON
28G
36G
9RTW
 
HW
12B
5B
8RTW

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY ( Suns ) - HAYES STATION ( Mon-Sat )
Mon-Sat extended from Southall to Hayes at all times
Sunday reintroduced between Golders Green and Ealing ( 83A withdrawn ) using RTW type
Southall (HW) Bristol type introduced

03.05.50
ON
28G
36G
--
 
HW
12B+
5B
--
   
1RTL/55
    

GOLDERS GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced by 83A.

11.10.50
HW
12B
5B
10RTW
 
ON
28G
23G/11RTW
13RTL

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months.

02.05.51
HW
12B
5B
--
 
ON
28STL
18STL/18RTL
--

GOLDERS GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced by 83A.
G type at ON replaced by STL/RTL.

17.10.51
HW
5B/7STL
5B
--
 
ON
28STL
16STL/16RT
21RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months.
Sunday HW allocation withdrawn. Sunday only RT allocation introduced.

14.05.52
HW
12STL
5STL
--
 
ON
28STL
21STL/11RT
--

GOLDERS GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced by 83A.

22.10.52
HW
12RT
5RT
--
 
ON
28RT
32RT
16RT
 
AE
--
--
5RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months. AE allocation introduced.

06.05.53
HW
12RT
5RT
--
 
ON
28RT
32RT
--

GOLDERS GREEN - HAYES STATION (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route suspended for summer months - replaced by 83A. AE withdrawn.

07.10.53
HW
12RT
5RT
--
 
ON
28RT
32RT
16RT
 
AE
--
--
5RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES STN (Mon-Sat)
Sunday Route re-instated for winter months. AE reinstated.

27.01.54
HW
13RT
6RT
--
 
ON
29RT
32RT
16RT
 
AE
--
--
5RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - Hayes - Church Road - Lansbury Drive - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Mon-Sat extended from Hayes to Hayes North. Journeys to Hayes North started from Hayes Station.

19.05.54
HW
13RT
6RT
--
 
ON
29RT
32RT
22RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Sunday only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn.

06.10.54
HW
13RT
6RT
--
 
ON
29RT
32RT
16RT
 
AE
--
--
5RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Hendon (AE) allocation re-introduced.

04.05.55
HW
13RT
5RT
--
 
ON
27RT
31RT
20RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING BROADWAY (Suns) - HAYES NORTH (Mon-Sat)
Sunday only Hendon (AE) allocation withdrawn.

Taken from May 1955 Red Book

30.04.58
HW
12RT+
5RT
--
    1RT/105    
 
ON
24RT
27RT
16RT


26.11.58
ON
27RT
25RT
16RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
 Withdrawn between Ealing and Hayes North - replaced mainly by extended 105
HW allocation withdrawn.

Route 83 first and last times at Npvember 1958

11.05.60
ON
27RT
25RT
22RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - South Ealing - Great West Road - Osterley - Lampton - Hounslow West - Cranford - Harlington Corner - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing via 65 and 91.

12.10.60
ON
27RT
25RT
15RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter months

 

 

RT474 Empire Pool stand

 

10.05.61
ON
27RT
25RT
21RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing via 65 and 91.

11.10.61
ON
27RT
25RT
15RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter months

09.05.62
ON
27RT
25RT
19RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing via 65 and 91.

10.10.62
ON
27RT
25RT
15RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter months

08.05.63
ON
27RT
25RT
19RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing via 65 and 91.

09.10.63
ON
27RT
25RT
12RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport during winter months

01.07.64
ON
27RT
25RT
17RT

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat) - LONDON AIRPORT CENTRAL (Suns)
Extended for summer season to London Airport from Ealing via 65 and 91.

18.11.64
ON
27RT
25RT
12RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING BROADWAY
Withdrawn between Ealing and London Airport for good

03.10.65
ON
30RT
32RT
14RT

GOLDERS GREEN STN - Hendon - West Hendon - Wembley - Alperton - Hangar Lane - Ealing - Hanwell Broadway - Boston Manor - BRENTFORD Half Acre
Extended from Ealing to Brentford replacing part 255.

01.10.66
ON
28RT
29RT
14RM

GOLDERS GREEN  -  BRENTFORD
Sunday RM introduced.

31.12.66
ON
27RM
27RM
14RM

GOLDERS GREEN  -  BRENTFORD
RM's introduced daily.

30.11.68
ON
25RM
25RM
10RM

GOLDERS GREEN STN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Mon-Sat withdrawn between Hanwell and Brentford - replaced by new E1
Sunday withdrawn between Ealing Broadway and Brentford - replaced by new E1.

25.10.69
ON
24RM
25RM
6RM

GOLDERS GREEN - ALPERTON (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday withdrawn between Alperton and Ealing - replaced by OPO route 83A Wembley & Ealing.

15.05.71
ON
24RM
23RM
10MB

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday converted to One Person Operation and extended from Alperton to Ealing Broadway replacing Route 83A.

MB618 seen at Vivienne Avenue - Hendon

© Malcolm Allan

21.04.73
ON
25RM
23RM
7DMS
3SMS

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday part double deck operation introduced.

SMS553 Golders Green

busmap.co.uk

 

27.10.73
ON1+
25RM
23RM
10DMS

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Sunday single deck operation withdrawn.

RT4329 subs for an RM December 1974, seen at Hanger Lane

busmap.co.uk

DMS714 Ealing Broadway Station
October 1975

busmap.co.uk

28.10.78
ON1+
22RM
21RM
11DMS

GOLDERS GREEN STATION - Hendon Central Stn - West Hendon - Kingsbury - Wembley - Alperton - Hangar Lane - EALING BROADWAY STN (Suns) - HANWELL BROADWAY (Mon-Sat)
Re-routed at Hendon via Hendon Central Stn replacing diverted Route 183

RM1849 Hanger Lane Station

busmap.co.uk

31.03.79
ON1+
22RM
21RM
11DMS

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Sun am) Hanwell - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Extended from HL Garage to King Edward Hospital

24.01.80
ON1+
22RM
21RM
11M

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Sunday only DMS type replaced by Metrobus.

04.09.82
ON1+
19Mc
17Mc
10M

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Mon-Sat RM replaced by M crew vehicles.

23.04.83
ON1+
22M
20M
10M

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Sun am) - SOUTHALL King Edward Hospital (Mon-Sat/Sun pm)
Converted to One Person Operation.

26.03.88
ON1+
22M
20M
10M

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING (Mon-Sat late evenings/Sun am) Hanwell - EALING HOSPITAL (Mon-Sat except late evenings/Sun pm)
No late eve Route Mon-Sat - Ealing Broadway & Ealing Hospital

 

M1258 Golders Green

 

13.09.97
ON1+
19TN
18TN
11TN
first challenferlogo
New Contract

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
 Start of new contract and extended from Ealing Broadway to Ealing Hospital at all times


13.09.02
ON1+
19TN
18TN
11TN
first logo
Contract renewal

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract renewal - night service added but numbered N83

 

 

VN107 Ealing Common

 

17.04.04
ON
19TN
18TN
11TN
Night Route
ON
4VTL
4VTL
4VTL

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Night Route introduced - previously had been N83

12.09.09
ON
28VN
24VN
20VN
Night Route
ON
4VN
4VN
4VN

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract renewed with First

 

 

VNZ32335 Wembley Hill Road

 

22.06.13
ON
28VN
24VN
20VN
Night Route
ON
4VN
4VN
4VN
metroline logo NEW OPERATOR

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract novated to Metroline West

 

 

 

VW1756 Golders Green

 

 

13.09.14
ON801+
28VW
27VW
22VW
Night Route
ON
4VW
4VW
4VW

GOLDERS GREEN - EALING HOSPITAL
Contract extended for two years

10.09.16
ON801+
19VW
18VW
15VW

GOLDERS GREEN STN  -  ALPERTON STATION
Withdrawn between Alperton and Ealing Hospital, this section replaced by New Route 483
Night service renumbered N83 as the day and night service differed
Contract renewal

VW1755 Alperton VW1755 has just dropped at the last stop with the blind set already for the return journey

11.09.21
PV201+
20VW+
18VW+
16VW+
    4VW/N83 4VW/N83 4VW/N83

GOLDERS GREEN STN  -  ALPERTON STATION
Contract extended for two years
Alperton (ON) closure, allocation moved to Perivale (PV)

17.09.22
ON401+
22VW
22VW
19VW

GOLDERS GREEN STN  -  ALPERTON STATION
Vehicles will be parked overight at new outstationof PV at  Athlone Road Alperton

26.08.23
ON401+
21VW
21VW
17VW

GOLDERS GREEN STN  -  ALPERTON Sainsbury's
Extended from Alperton Station to Sainsbury's

09.09.23
ON401+
21VW
21VW
17VW

GOLDERS GREEN STN  -  ALPERTON Sainsbury's
Contract renewal with WDE electric type when delivered

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Current Blind



 83

 

Operating Garages

PV Perivale
 Changeover point at garage with buses running dead from Alperton

AE Hendon
 Changeover point outside garage

ON Alperton
 Changeover point outside garage

HW Southall
 Changeover point outside garage

V Turnham Green
 Changeover point Kew Bridge

HD Harrow Weald
 Changeover point not known

Live Visual

 

Comment by Iain Wordsworth

Thank you indeed for your delighful, absolutely fascinating website. It's so full of memories and incredible, fascinating detail, and the bus drawings are superb. More trolleybuses, especially the north-western routes, would be nice if you have the time but it's quite amazing anyway.

I haven't lived in the part of London that was Middlesex for 53 years now but I've kept my interest in the buses of my boyhood all my life. My parents told me that from a very young age, whenever we managed to get top deck front seats on our fairly frequent journeys to Victoria, I would "drive" the bus using my raincoat buttons as the steering wheel! Later, downstairs nearside front became the favourite seat as I could watch the driver changing gears.

I was myself a driver on Derby City Transport throughout in the 80s, ending up as the Works Convenor at the time of deregulation, which resulted in a short-lived (bought out by an Arriva predeccessor) employee buyout. DCT was principally a Daimler operator and for a time around then we had a handful of secondhand and knackered DMSs, which were, frankly, awful things and that's as near as I got to achieving my childhood dream of driving RTLs.

I'd like to pass on some information about the two routes I knew best, the 52 and 83: the 52 took me to senior school and to Victoria on the way to visit my aunt in Brixton and the 83 took me to Wembley and to Golders Green for a 210 to The Arsenal. it's been so interesting after all these years to find out about allocations and times. Oh, how I would have loved this in my bus spotting days! How on earth you've managed to compile the destination blind section is beyond me but I can add a couple of footnotes that I hope will help.

I can't remember exactly but I suspect it was about 1963/4, when I was 13 or 14, that I first saw a 52 displaying a "KINGSBURY GREEN" blind but I was delighted as Kingsbury wasn't listed at all on the intermediate blind at that time. At first it was only the 52s and after dropping off passengers the buses ran empty across the traffic lights and up Buck Lane to the top of the hill. There they turned left into Highfield Road and waited for time at the bottom of the road. A left turn brought them immediately back on route and the first stop, not a fare stage, was after another left turn at the small parade of shops on Kingsbury Road where they were back in service. I can say definitely that up until the end of 1967 the destination display was "KINGSBURY GREEN".

The 83 was later in using the shortwork but, whereas I remember the 52s turned round there only occasionally, the 83s seemed to use it much more frequently (There was nothing otherwise between Wembley Park and West Hendon). This happened after the route became RM operated so according to the website this was 1966; I cannot ever remember seeing an RT on a Kingsbury Green shortwork. I'm surprised that later they used the "Roe Green" suffix as the route didn't actually serve Roe Green while the shortwork only traversed the road so named for a hundred yards without stopping there.

The 83s used the same roads as the 52 to turn round but, surprisingly, they waited for time at the bottom of Buck Lane, which caused congestion when there were several of them, as happened at times. Later, presumably after complaints from drivers or other motorists, they also started waiting for time at the bottom of Highfield Road; I once saw four RMs parked there. On their returne to service I don't know if they picked up at the first stop on Kingsbury Road, which was the southbound Roe Green stop normally used by 52 and 183, as the 83s weren't back on route until the Church Lane fare stage at Kingsbury Green; more to the point, no-one would have waited for an 83 there as it was off route. Again, at least until the end of 1967. the blind showed plain "KINGSBURY GREEN" so I believe this destination deserves a place on your blind displays for both the 52 and the 83 if you are able to alter them.

The other routes that did traverse or pass Roe Green were the infrequent (by the standards of the 52 and 83) 79 and 183 but I don't think either ever used Kingsbury Green as a shortwork.